! WARNING !

Carebears crying for permatanks !



Burst tanks FTW !

AAR made for PvP... hell yeah.. go back to your rainbowland with your shiney fitting farmers :P

Replace resist bonuses with nice, chunky raw HP bonuses. It'll let those ships keep their buffer tank options while not letting them be better at active tanking than the actual active tanking ships. Plus, it'll be a minor stealth nerf to logi shenanigans, since base HP doesn't stack multiplicatively with extra HP from logis like resists do.

I'm... not sure you're reading what you, yourself, are writing.

The problem with the current bonusing is that resist-bonussed ships (Amarr, in armor's case) can be buffer armor fits, or local active fits, or fleet-type "I'm-getting-logi" fits, and be rendered more effective at whichever one they choose by that delicious resist bonuses.

Most of the Amarr engineering groups, who seem to have a pathological fear of mid slots, would like a word with you concerning a great number of their ships.

Ok, i really tried to like this whole idea of burst tanking pvp modules but i just cant, its flawed in its core.

The thing is really simple, if regular modules need significant amount of time to catch up to burst tanking modules ppl are only gonna use burst tanking ones. They are not using them for their "burst", they are using them because they will give them more EHP in the time frame of the fight.

If you don't have any real arguments, and can't even post that zero-content in a civilized manner, I think it's actually you should stop posting.

1600mm II is the biggest buffer module in the game. It simply needs to come with serious drawbacks.

The reason the PG requirements of the medium and large armor repairers were so high was so you didn't fit the repairer on a smaller ship.

True. But that Damnation isn't going to be zipping around the field at 1200m/s+, kicking out 600+ dps, all while burst tanking ridiculous amounts of damage.

Although I don't remember when was the last time I heard of a single-repper BC/BS for PvP, and for multiple reppers you need a cap booster anyways, so this new module...

...He says that, and yet the ASB is a thing.

Active tanks in DUST 514 have the repairs spread across 5 pulses in the duration of the cycle.

I'm wondering if this would be appropriate for Armour tanking in EVE...
Instead of getting the repairs at the end of the cycle, distribute them into pulses across the cycle.

The problem is that even if we have AAR and ASB, normal active tanking doesn't provide you half the lifespan of buffer fits.
Simply put I still believe all armor reppers and shield boosters should give ~20% more hitpoints repaired pr minute than currently. Obviously balanced with a look into wether cap use should be changed with it...

I would at the same time look into pirate implants and nerf them to about 50% of what they give today. 50+ % armor buffer or shield boosting is tipping the game balance and I think Snakes, Slaves and Crystals would still be hugely attractive doing half what they do now. You know in todays game all armor supers/titans HAVE to use slaves and crystals are actually the only time active shield boosting gets viable in pvp when combined with faction gear...

Pinky

comparing armor tank DIRECTLY with shield tank is bad mkay? Especially when the 2 ships are not designed to tank the same, but are designed to be somewhat balanced against eachother taking many stats into consideration...

It's precisely how it shouldn't, because that oclude everything the systems don't share.

How do you compare the mid slot availability of the armor tanker versus the low slot availability of the shield one, for example ?

And in this comparison made earlier : why isn't the cap stability compared too ?

And how will you compare the availability of rigs to boost rep amount for armor but not for shield ?

Basicaly, active armor is designed to be cap efficient, but slow and not so bursty, though you can more easily boost the burst ability with rigs and add more repairer (there is more low slots than mid slots). On the other side, shield are built with high burst but very low cap efficiency, though you can boost this cap efficiency with rigs and boost amplifier (though this last one cost a valuable mid slot).

Yea, obviously, with all the ships running around with unbonused webs and ewar I can see where you came to that conclusion....



Did you wake up and smoke crack today?

When was the last time you went roaming in something that wasn't a dual alt boosted nighthawk? Do you not notice that everything in lowsec right now has a damp, TD, or web fit in its mids?

Right, so you admit to being wrong. I like the growth in you Fon, first you openly admit to being a racist, now you can even admit when you're wrong.

Armor Repairers GÇô Powergrid usage of Armor Repairers has been reduced by 10% for medium modules and 20% for large modules.

Armor Reps:New:
Reduce the Powergrid requirements of all Medium Armor Repair units by 20%
Reduce the Powergrid requirements of all Large Armor Repair units by 10%

Since the heating rig is probably never going to happen, as the boost of multiple of the things would break everything even with stacking, perhaps we should start advocating a doubling or tripling of the AAR repair amount when heated.

Balance it by being just barely able to run the full eight cycles without redlining at thermo 5 so that the bursty aspect is enhanced for a very limited time .. rig can then make a comeback as a mimic of the T3 hull bonus instead of the initially proposed rep super charger .. such a heating rig has the potential to shake up far more than just a single module

Ten ships by doubling/tripling heat bonus .. the ships you fight must all forget to activate guns or something. Heating a repper gives you -15% cycle and +10% amount, I propose it be +20-30% amount ... think you might have read it wrong.